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Hi :-) My name is Prudvi and I am the head scientist at DECIEM. I lead all product development and research in our lab and I’m here to answer all of your questions about everything science and skincare. Ask Me Anything!

My name is Prudvi Mohan Kaka and I am the Chief Scientific Officer at DECIEM, The Abnormal Beauty Company. I joined the company in 2014 and I work in our lab overseeing all areas of our product’s life-cycle. My background includes a degree in pharmaceutical sciences and an advanced degree in biotechnology. I use this experience to bring a unique perspective to the beauty industry, as I view skincare as healthcare, not luxury but necessity. My day to day includes guiding multiple teams at DECIEM to think outside of the box when creating products in order to provide skincare with synergistic chemical relationships.

For those new to us, DECIEM is a humble and happy umbrella of good beauty brands, such as The Ordinary, created in 2013. We're founded on the principle of doing everything others don't do and we are changing the world of beauty based on this principle. Today I am here to answer all of your questions about routines, products, and the science of skincare. AMA!

Proof: https://www.instagram.com/p/B5AtVHpHZIW/

EDIT: Hi all! Wish I could stay all day, but I have to go for now! Logging off for a bit to do some work (you want new products right?) but will do my best to answer more questions tomorrow. Thank you so much for joining my AMA, we're so grateful for all of you - go science!


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niapattenlooks

Hi Prudvi! Long time fan here. Could you tell me a bit about the Deciem rule about not using peptides with strong antioxidants or acids. What research let to this guidance? Thanks so much for your precious time


deciemofficial

Hi! Our rule against combining strong antioxidants only applies to our products containing copper peptides. We would not recommend combining direct acids with peptides due to the susceptibility of peptides to hydrolysis (which breaks the bonds between peptides, reducing their efficacy and making them into individual amino acids). At low pH, the peptides undergo processes such as deamidation (the removal of an amide group) and oxidation, which compromise the activity of the peptides. 

Having said that, if you have previously combined peptides with acids and have not experienced any negative side effects or discoloration, you may continue to combine the two products as so as the combination does not pose any potential harm. Our recommendations are meant to serve as a preventative measure to avoid any incompatibility between those combinations and also because skin tolerance in subjective. Hope this helps!

zorana7

What is the difference between The Ordinary and all other DECIEM brands? It is much cheaper and you can see that people love it. However, can you say that it is of a less quality? Thanks a lot.


deciemofficial

Hello! All of the brands under DECIEM have their own unique purpose and mission. The low price point of The Ordinary is not a reflection of the quality, but rather the cost that these technologies demand. The Ordinary is offering clinical skincare ingredients that have been on the market for years, sometimes decades, and this is reflected in the cost. The prices of our other lines, such as NIOD and Hylamide, reflect newer technologies and combinations of active ingredients. All products across DECIEM are priced based on the costs of the technologies in the formula. :-)

sewingbea84

When will the salicylic acid solution be back? I think everyone at r/skincareaddiction including me are missing it badly and I’m almost out.


deciemofficial

I'm sorry it's taking so long :-( Salicylic acid is a well-loved ingredient and we're working on a variety of concentrations (0.5%, 1%, and 2%) to address a variety of skin types, tolerances, and improve accessibility for anyone that would like to use it. The team and I are working really hard to make sure it's available for you ASAP. Thank you for bearing with us. <3

loganjacobs

Hi! :) I travel a lot for work, if I want to put the products in tiny travel size containers, like little plastic bottles, will they have a negative interaction with the plastic (i.e. direct Acids, AHA, Retinoid, serums), or is it ok? :)


deciemofficial

Good question! While we have only tested stability of formulas in our own packaging, it should be fine to store formulas in plastic bottles for short-term trips. That said, the majority of our packaging is carry-on friendly. Happy traveling! :-)

Svynka

Usually low prices means a lack of quality control or a lack of ethically obtained ingredients (child/slave labour ecc), how do you ensure that your products are ethically sourced and well made while keeping the famous low prices?


deciemofficial

Hi - our prices are low because we believe it's the right thing to do. The pricing of The Ordinary (and all DECIEM brands) reflect the honest cost of the ingredients used in formulation, and is not a result of unethical practices or lack of quality control. We have 17 dedicated team members working in our Quality department and the team is very quickly expanding as we continue to expand our production and develop more products.

:-) <3 (edited for smiley and heart)

elisaz91

Any future plans on having retinol (not Granactive) in something different than Squalane?

[Love what you guys did to skincare. You literally transformed me to "skincare is all marketing" into "give me all the science behind, I love it"]


deciemofficial

Hi! Thank you for the kind words. Not at this time, but I have some ideas... ;-)

vsnord

Which DECIEM products do you use in your own skincare routine?


deciemofficial

Hi! On an everyday basis, I use The Ordinary's Squalane Cleanser and NIOD's Survival 0. And that's my routine (with a 10-month old baby and a very busy lab life). :-)

KarmaAndKhaos

Hi! Thank you for doing this! Do you have any idea when the Invisible UV Filters SPF 35 with antioxidants will be coming out? Feels like I've been stalking the site in hopes of it being available forever now!


deciemofficial

May 2020 :-) Stay tuned!!!

almondparfitt

how do you decide which items to pair together for your routine? i've used a bunch of the ordinary products but never could tell i'm doing the right combo. any tips on how to approach all the options? (LOVE hemi-squalane).


deciemofficial

Hello! It all begins with your objective - what you want to target and what your main concerns are. We offer independent, single ingredient-based solutions within The Ordinary, and more complex offerings within our other brands such as Hylamide and NIOD. Since everyone's skin is unique, our Customer Happiness team are happy to offer custom recommendations for you at DECIEM.com/contact always.

94eitak

Hi Prudvi! Do you guys have a tranexamic acid serum in the pipeline? I'd love a 2-5% serum (or whatever the OTC limit is in the Americas/Europe) Some of us have post acne red marks (Post Inflammatory Erythmea/PIE) that will not budge! TA is experiencing a surge in popularity but I don't know of any products on the market that contain a known percentage, which is really what we all love about DECIEM brands, transparency and efficacy! I'd also love to see a 5% EGCG serum, like I'd die and go to heaven.


deciemofficial

Hi :-) Not at the moment, but thank you for the suggestion. I'll keep these in mind for future formulations...

nearlythere

Edited to clarify the question: With so little regulation in this industry, I am just unsure of what the heck is safe or not. I'd like to know if this company stands by its ingredients with regard to health, safety, efficacy, pollution, etc.

Some 'clean skincare' companies claim to have a list of products that they wouldn't use under any circumstances. I can't tell if it's fear-mongering, or what.

Do you have a list of ingredients that Deciem would never use? There are somethings you have in products like Polysorbates, PEGs, silicones, some fragrances, etc. that other companies avoid. Would you come out and defend these ingredients?

It's hard to sort out what is clean skincare BS, and what is science and fact-based.


deciemofficial

Hi! Thank you for your question. I'm unclear on the "clean" messaging myself - these days, this means something different to everyone.

All DECIEM products, across all brands (including The Ordinary) are free of parabens, sulphates, mineral oil, methylchloroisothiazolinone, methylisothiazolinone, animal oils, coal tar dyes, formaldehyde, mercury, phthalates, and oxybenzone. This is because we have inconclusive data regarding their safety and don't feel comfortable using them in our products.

To answer your question, there are many misunderstood ingredients and a good example is silicones. There are thousands of silicones in the world and all start with very natural silica. A few of them were found to damage the environment and the entire industry started to consider thousands of silicones "not clean" despite the fact that they are extremely pure molecules that all start with silica.

Another example would be PEGs. Polyethylene glycols (PEGs) are a well-studied class of ingredients in the Pharmaceutical, Cosmetic and Food industries. Being so versatile, they are commonly used for various applications, including solvents, surfactants, lubricants and plasticizers. PEGs have been perceived in a negative light due to the contaminants that they are associated with. Those include ethylene oxide, 1,4-dioxane, polycyclic aromatic compounds, and heavy metals such as lead, iron, cobalt, nickel, cadmium, and arsenic. However, our manufacturers take all necessary measures to remove as much of those contaminants as possible, ensuring the safety of their use. With regards to its safety of use for topical application, PEGs are completely safe to use on intact skin as they are not capable of reaching layers within the skin further than the epidermis.

If you have questions about any ingredient that we use, please reach out to our team at DECIEM.com/contact and my lab team will provide a response.

cookiemonsters_gf

Do direct acids (lactic, glycolic) lose their efficiency over time once exposed to air? I’m currently cycling through a couple products and wonder if this is a bad idea if I’m trying to maximize product efficiency.

Thanks for doing this! I’ve been using your products for years and they have been amazing for my skin. I love the science behind your products and especially love your new recycling program :)


deciemofficial

Hello :-) As long as they're stored properly (in a cool, dry place) and used within the period after opening suggested, they should be absolutely fine. Our stability tests actually capture the normal usage of our products (including air exposure) and their time on the shelf.

brynna1973

I am a huge fan of the Deciem products for 3 years now. Are there go to Deciem products which specially targets skin for us women in our 40's to help us with collagen production and firming of the facial skin that has lost firmness and that youthfull "plump"?


deciemofficial

Thank you for following the team and I on this journey :-) <3 I'd recommend any one of the below:

1) The Ordinary "Buffet"

2) Hylamide SubQ Skin
3) NIOD Copper Amino Isolate Lipid 1%

si_novi

Hi Prudvi! :) I am wondering about the Salicylic Acid 2% Solution from the Ordinary. I love the current formula and am wondering what the goals are of reformulating? I'm afraid of losing my magic acne-curer so I'm interested to know what problems the reformulation is targeting or what you are trying to improve! Thank you :)


deciemofficial

Hi :-) The goal is to offer a few options for as many users as possible based on skin tolerance and experience using direct acids without losing efficacy.

_stav_

Hello. Why can’t we use peptides with vitamin C? What other ingredients shouldn’t be mixed with the peptides?


deciemofficial

Hi :-) We would not recommend combining direct acids or Vitamin C with peptides because (at a low pH) the peptides undergo processes such as deamidation and oxidation, which compromise the activity of the peptides. Our recommendations are meant to serve as a preventative measure to avoid any incompatibility between those combinations (due to various concentrations and formats offered within our range) and also because skin tolerance in subjective. If you have been combining them and this has been working for you, you may continue to do so as the combination will not harm the skin.

macgloss1234

What happened to the products that Brandon had mentioned before his passing? I was very interested in the face cleansers for The Ordinary (I think it was a salicylic acid one) and the savon beldi that he mentioned in Morocco.

Also, when are we getting the fragrance that is in the stores? Can you tell us what it is? Or do I have to become an employee to get that info?

Thanks!


deciemofficial

Stay tuned - we're continuing to work on everything that Brandon mentioned. :-)

igabeup

how did your career lead you to focus in skincare?


deciemofficial

Hi :-) I come from a Pharmacy background which offered a course in Formulations which was the seed of everything. I was then interested in Pharmacology and Biochemistry which lead to my curiosity into the realm of functional formulations (AKA skincare)!

Skincarestoomuch

how do you decide which type of product u want to make next?


deciemofficial

Hi! While there's no pattern for how we curate and launch new products, there are a few factors prior to launching new formulas - we learn about the market, new innovations in skincare, any gaps/trends in the market, requests from our community, and then figure out how we can do things better. ;-)

wishingforitall

When does Deciem plan to release the anti-grey hair serum? I heard it's been in the pipeline for almost 2 years now and I'm getting impatient! :)


deciemofficial

While conventional hair dyes offer a quick solution, this formula is taking us a bit longer because it offers a functional approach to targeting the appearance grey hairs before (and after) they appear without simply covering them up. I can't wait for you to try it :-)

missbrenna

Hi Prudvi! I have read through so many threads of people discussing how they use TO L-AA powder, and others telling them they are doing it wrong. It makes sense that you would need to use something water soluble and pH test, but I see so many people saying they just mix 1/2 spoon with a random moisturizer or serum and see results. I also used to use the hugely overpriced Philosophy Turbo C powder (same thing basically) way way back in the day, mixed with a water-based serum or my moisturizer, and I really thought it was effective but maybe it was a placebo effect.

Can I just mix it with NMF or would improper pH render it useless? If I make a cocktail of a couple drops of the Ferulic/resveratrol, a few drops of my hada labo HA serum, and 1/2 scoop of the powder, will it be effective without buying pH strips?

And one more follow-up, if I can mix it with an HA serum or NMF, can I then still apply to damp skin as I regularly would with these products, or does my skin need to be dry? Would the L-AA concoction need to be the first thing applied to my skin OR could I do my HA serum to damp skin, and THEN the NMF mixed with the L-AA powder?

Thank you so much for your time!


deciemofficial

That is an awesome question! :-)

As a simple solution, if you are mixing a small concentration of pure LAA powder with water to create a solution, that is okay as the Vitamin C will adjust the pH of the water to acidic. If you are mixing a high concentration of pure LAA Powder, you may mix it with an oil to create a suspension as the oil will support the delivery of the Vitamin C to the skin.

breadandtacos

Hi Prudvi!! Over years of trial and error, I’ve found my skin works best with acids. I love your salicylic acid and glycolic acid peel. I also use your azelaic acid cream. Awesome products at a very affordable price!

My question is—what is the correct way to layer products when considering pH level? It is my understand that it would be bad to pre-mix solutions that don’t have the same pH level; does this also apply to layering on the face? Does adding a pH of 4 on top of a pH of 8 work? Will they mix and mess with their pH levels? Would it be best to pick products that all have the same pH level?

Have always been confused about this. Hope to receive an answer!! Thanks for taking the time today :)


deciemofficial

Hi! Most of our skincare products are around a pH level of 5-6. My best rule of thumb is to follow any listed contraindications for the products you are using and avoid mixing high concentrations of a variable of high-contrasting pH level. Hope this is helpful! P.S., I, too, love breadandtacos. ;-)

Saveljos

Is there actually something that gets rid of black heads for real? All products talk about is minimising the appearance of blackheads. Which sounds like closing the skin but keeping the blackhead-stuf stay inside the skin.


deciemofficial

Blackheads, often referred to as open comedones, are clogged pores with an opening at the top, causing its contents (a mix of sebum, skin microbiome and dead skin cells) to oxidize and turn black when exposed to oxygen in air. Blackheads can be mitigated with the use of chemical exfoliation and regular efficient cleansing. For example, beta-hydroxy acids such as salicylic acid are chemical exfoliating agents that are lipophilic (oil-loving) in nature. This allows them to mix with the lipophilic impurities within the skin to achieve a deeper cleanse of the skin and pores. I hope this helps! :-)

p5ych0phr33k

Are there any plans in the future to make mixed ingredient products in the future, for a price point that's in between TO & NIOD?

Deciem launched an amino lip balm that was great aside from the taste the aminos created - I see the line was relatively promptly put aside on the brand menu for now... What are the plans on releasing an improved formula?

Thank you!


deciemofficial

Have you met Hylamide? hylamide.com ;-)

I have heard the feedback loud and clear, and we have a tastier version in a better tube coming soon.

friendlyRaven98

First of all, I loved every Deciem product I ever bought! Thank you so much for the hard work! My question: Are there new categories of products planned for 2020? Like something for lips or hair colour? And what about Fontaine, will there be new products in 2020?

A lot of love! ♥


deciemofficial

Absolutely! We were just talking about it. ;-)

newprofilewhodis1352

Wanted to say your products are amazing. As a licensed esthetician, Deciem gives a whole new meaning to taking care of one’s skin. Your products contain REAL, proven actives instead of shit like essential oils and unnecessary fillers. I recommend a lot of your products (especially the Ordinary because of price) to a lot of people. You must have a blast creating amazing things and making a difference in that lab.

Wanted to ask—how marked up in price are TO (your cheapest) products? I know they’re ethically priced and very good for their price.... I was curious to know how marked up they are compared to other skincare lines.


deciemofficial

Hello :-) Thank you for your kind note. While I don't like to compare ourselves to other brands, we do our absolute best to ensure that we offer the most fair, honest price for our products.

per-oxide

Is there any room for extremely low maintenance skincare (ie: not cleansing everyday) and using treatment products on the occasion? Or is the only way to see results from a structured routine?


deciemofficial

Hi! Absolutely :-) High and low maintenance skincare routines can each be effective in their own ways, dependent on your skin concerns. While I feel that cleansing is an important step of any routine, a simple hydrator and a treatment product on occasion (such as Glycolic Acid 7% Toning Solution) could suffice based on your needs.

Psy1ocke2

How does Deciem keep prices so low for their products through The Ordinary? They are incredibly effective and my wallet (and husband!) are so happy.


deciemofficial

I'm happy you're both happy :-) The reason for our pricing is that The Ordinary offers clinical skincare ingredients that have been on the market for years, sometimes decades, and we believe it's the right thing to do.

mxlila

What's the difference between product development and research? What kind of projects do you work on or have worked on in the past to give us some examples for both?

What product/development are you most proud of? Has there been any project that didn't work out? Why? Any new plans?


deciemofficial

Hi :-) Research and product development are both key parts of bringing products to life. Research for us includes finding literature that supports the product development. Development for us includes the full product development lifecycle, from conception to distribution (all in-house!) and every DECIEM product starts with research before product development.

Out of the hundreds of products I've had a hand in creating, I'm most proud of The Ordinary's Vitamin C Suspension 23% + HA Spheres 2% - it's the most stable format of Vitamin C (which is one of the most unstable active ingredients to formulate with).

A good example of a project that didn't work out is Abnomaly's Petrowhat? :-( We quickly learned that some customers didn't enjoy the taste (or packaging) and we are coming out with a tastier, better packaged version (hopefully soon).

starla79

For some people (myself included), TO niacinamide+zinc is a holy grail product, for others it makes them get terrible cystic acne. What is it about the product that causes people to have such significantly different results?


deciemofficial

Hello! Everyone's skin is different, but I'm happy to hear that it's working well for you. :-)

ChatDuFusee

When are we getting some news on Avestan? :)

Also, thanks for The Ordinary, I can't stress enough what is has done for my skin.


deciemofficial

Thank you so much for the love <3 I can't say anything about Avestan at the moment but please know it's very close to my heart.

BootDoots

Hello. Aside from your formal education background, what career path did you take that lead you to skincare and where you are now?

PS I love your work!

Thanks!


deciemofficial

Hello :-) Aside from my educational background, it was our founder, Brandon Truaxe, who presented me with the opportunity and molded me (through DECIEM) to be an engine for innovation.

Pamsrockin

Hello!

I have a question about Hyaluronic acid. I have experienced problems with Hyaluronic serums making my skin feel dryer before I learned it can actually draw water out of skin if in a dryer environment. What is the best form to wear over it to make it effective for very dry skin? You hear about "occlusives" but is that simply a moisturizer? Can an oil also be on top of all of this?


deciemofficial

Hi there! Hyaluronic Acid aims to hydrate the skin through retaining moisture from its surrounding environment. Generally speaking, in humid conditions, it is ideal to use a light moisturizer which can retain moisture from the environment. In dry conditions, Hyaluronic Acid and a rich-textured cream like The Ordinary's Magnesium Ascorbyl Phosphate 10% or NIOD's Hydration Vaccine would be ideal. Our products that contain Hyaluronic Acid also include other active ingredients that have the ability to continuously supply water to the skin and increase the skin’s potential to retain more water. For instance, we incorporate Hyaluronic Acid elastomers, where medium to high molecular weight Hyaluronic Acids are cross linked, generating a variable molecular weight compound that tightly binds water and releases it in a timely fashion upon application on the skin. I hope this is helpful! :-)

mrcaileandro

Hello Prudvi, regarding the new Niod CAIL 1%, is it meant to be Niod’s approach to Retin-A? Meaning it will boost celular renewal and shed dead skin cells without necessarily exfoliating it. I ask this because the tube itself reminds me of a Tretinoin tube and I also saw “Gothamista” on YouTube mention that it seemed to provide similar benefits to the Tretinoin product she was using - she experienced some skin shedding as a result of using CAIL 1% and made reference to the results being “strong”. So again, just to clarify my question, can CAIL 1% be considered a Tretinoin alternative without necessarily comparing their method of action on the skin, but on the similarity of the results that they provide for the skin itself (increased cell turnover, lightening hyperpigmentation, strengthening the stratum-corneum , reversing sun damage, minimize pore size, etc) ?


deciemofficial

Hello there :-) Firstly, I can't compare NIOD's CAIL 1% to tretinoin directly as tretinoin is classified a drug and CAIL is a cosmetic skincare product. That said, CAIL 1% does similarly help to improve the appearance of the aforementioned results.

loganjacobs

Hi Prudvi! :) So great you're doing this! The Hylamide Glow Booster says it uses erythrulose instead of DHA to give a tan, as DHA has been shown to increase free radicals when exposed to UV rays. Will erythrulose increase the production of free radicals too but at a lower rate than DHA, or it doesn't increase the production of free radicals at all?


deciemofficial

Good question! Erythrulose-treated skin generates lower free radicals in comparison to a DHA-treated skin. I would suggest following with SPF as usual to ensure your skin is protected. :-)

FeelTheRoom

Hi Prudvi! Thanks for doing this AMA. I just bought The Ordinary Nicacinamide 10% + Zinc 1%, mainly to help with my PIH. Any tips on how to incorporate it into my routine? Other than a moisturizer and SPF, I currently use azelaic acid and tretinoin as my active ingredients.


deciemofficial

Hi :-) I'm so excited for you to try and hope you enjoy everything. I would suggest applying Niacinamide in your morning routine after cleansing, before moisturizer and sunscreen. For in-depth help with regimen building, please visit DECIEM.com/contact or DM us @deciem on Instagram to be in touch with our team who will be happy to help.

jrockgiraffe

Why do some oils irritate dermatitis and others not. Are there plans for more cleansers from The Ordinary?


deciemofficial

Hi! I'd suggest discontinuing use and consulting with your physician or dermatologist if anything is irritating. On your second question, there are plans for more cleansers within The Ordinary - stay tuned! ;-)

KarmaAndKhaos

Could you possibly give us a timeline for the release of DECIEM's other brands, Loopha, Abnomaly, and Hippooh?


deciemofficial

I don't have a timeline to share just yet but we're aiming for 2020. <3

ho-m-efries

Hi Pruvdi. I'm curious as to how to get rid of comedonal acne? I have used TOs Glycolic Acid which helped for a while but now they're back.

Second question, what is truly the highest spf that gives the best sunscreen protection?


deciemofficial

Hello :-) There are multiple factors related to comedonal acne. If it's a recurring issue, I would suggest consulting with your physician. We are also working on The Ordinary Pharmaceuticals which may offer some solutions for you in the future.

Regarding sun protection, SPF 30 blocks up to 97% of UVB rays and SPF 60 blocks up to 98%. While SPF 60 offers an additional 1% of protection, the formula would require many more actives and may not have a good texture for application. I would also suggest looking for products that offer PA+++ level protection (or more) and reapplying every 2 hours, as well as 20 minutes prior to UV exposure. Hope this is helpful <3

mxlila

Hi, thank you so much for doing the AMA. And your work in general :) I was wondering what kind of tests new products go through? Besides some stability stuff I suppose, how do you test the texture, effect, interactions etc?


deciemofficial

Thank you for your kind words! We have a panel of product testers in-house that test texture, effect, and interactions. :-) We also conduct clinical testing for safety and efficacy.

Danheg8

Hey! Are you planning any formulations with tranexamic acid or bakuchiol as actives?


deciemofficial

Nothing in the pipeline yet, but we may in the future... :-)

zh4k

any advice for people who have large pores on their noses (mine is from sun damage I believe). Any specific routines to look at?


deciemofficial

Hello :-) Pore size is genetically determined, but pores can appear larger due to shine, congestion, and aging, as well as other factors. Niacinamide 10% + Zinc 1% is a great place to start, as well as exfoliating with alpha or beta hydroxy acids to improve the appearance of pores and congestion. Hope this is helpful!

Ruthwillow

Why can't your niacinamide be used with your vitamin c's when other brands can?


deciemofficial

Our contraindication is specific to our products and their concentrations. If you've used them together in the past and the combination has worked for you without any issues, you may continue to do so :-)

foodandbeerplease

Looking to get serious about my skincare. Specifically in the face area. Some foundational tips on a good daily skincare routine??


deciemofficial

A minimalistic routine is a great place to start - if you're just starting, a cleanser, toning solution and a moisturizer would be excellent. :-)

azdre_

Hi ! Thank you for this great initiative! I am very interested in the CAIS product. However, I struggle to understand the science behind copper peptides. Some information I read suggest that they should not be used long-term, some users even talk about adverse effects of copper peptides. I am in my late 20s and struggle with sensitive skin and wanted to use it to improve acne marks and overall skin tone.

Would you say that it's beneficial to use CAIS long-term for this purpose or is it designed for more visible signs of aging ?


deciemofficial

Thank you for your question :-) GHK and copper are utilized by multiple pathways within the skin to enhance and support a variety of functions for improved overall skin health. NIOD's CAIS 2:1 is formulated to enhance the skin's own potential to delay the onset of signs of aging and bring about lasting results over a period of time with consistent use. If you are specifically wanting to target dark marks and uneven skin tone, I suggest exploring alternatives, such as vitamin C or exfoliating formulas. If you are able to share the information that you've read, I'd be happy to take a look at it.

loganjacobs

Hi again Prudvi! :) On the website of The Ordinary it says that when Vitamin C is exposed to water it becomes pro-oxidant. If I use any of water base products before or after Vitamin C (Hyaluronic Acid, serums, moisturizer, spf), will it make it pro-oxidant?


deciemofficial

Hello :-) Some research studies suggest that the pro-oxidant behaviour of Vitamin C is dependent on the combination of three factors: a) the redox potential of the cellular environment, b) the presence of transition metal ions and c) the local concentration of ascorbate. However, those studies were inconclusive in establishing the concentration of topical Vitamin C at which it becomes pro-oxidant in action. Although its oxidation is inevitable in any formulation format, the Vitamin C in all our water-free powder, suspensions, and solutions is stable throughout the shelf-life of each of our products. I hope this helps!

SilentMomento

So this really isn't a question about skincare per say, but I'm currently in college and I'm currently looking into dermatology and dermatology related research for my future (I know that someone doesn't have to become a doctor to be involved in skincare, but I've been wanting to be a doctor for a while and I may also like other sections such as neurology), but I wanted to know how you got to do research at such a high position (like your path to becoming a head researcher at DECIEM, maybe what qualifications got you there) and how you even do skincare lab work (I find that I would love to find a way to do my own research or do research in a lab like this, esp. since I plan to take a gap year or two). Finally I wanted to ask how you knew that this sort of job was the right one for you? Were there any opportunties/experiences that allowed you to realize this is something you really wanted to do? And what is would you say is a day by day experience in your lab (sort of like a day or week in the life? I would find it incredibly intresting!)

I apologize ahead of time for the long post, but that you for taking the time to read it!


deciemofficial

Hi! Thank you for your question :-) With my educational background, I had the option of becoming a Pharmacist, but I knew that would be too boring for me and I would quit right away (my wife is a Pharmacist). My passion for formulation (pharmaceutics) and biochemistry lead me to DECIEM and what I do now. It was DECIEM that gave me the opportunity and allowed me to take the risks that I took which lead to me to where I am. My biggest piece of advice is to follow your passion to make sure you're never bored. ;-)

FedericaGilardini

Can I work in a cosmetic laboratory with a degree in Biotechnology? How it works? 🤗


deciemofficial

Of course! Apply at DECIEM.com/jobs ;-) <3

katarinalpv

Hi! I want to ask your take on why you think its fine we use your products (Me as a normal person i feel that products like Deciems are composed of a lot of chemicals). Im asking because a lot of people say that ‘the less chemicals the better’ and that in general we are moving more to a ‘natural ingredients’ vibe? Thank you so much in advance!! :)


deciemofficial

Hi! Thank you for your question. Our formulations follow a minimalistic concept - a few of our products actually contain 1 or a maximum of 2 ingredients and we only include ingredients that are extremely necessary to the efficacy of the formulation across all of our brands.

Our products are free of controversial ingredients (like phthalates, parabens, sulphates, mineral oil, methylchloroisothiazolinone, methylisothiazolinone, animal oils, coal tar dyes, formaldehyde, mercury, oxybenzone). :-)

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